How Tadej Pogačar Changed the Tour de France
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Gone are the days of boring Team Sky or US Postal dominance. Tadej Pogacar and Jonas Vingegaard have made the Tour de France much more enjoyable to watch in the last 4 years. In this video we go into some thoughts behind why this is the case.
Tadej Pogacar soon becomes the first rider since Mercx, Indurain and Pantani to do the Giro d'Italia and Tour de France double. How did he do it? The 2024 Tour de France is coming to a close and it's been filled with great final kilomters and exciting highlights across all the mountains.
How will Jonas Vingegaard bounce back in the 2025 Tour de France? Will he take the yellow jersey or will Visma Lease A Bike look to focus elsewhere?
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We can thank Sagan in part for how riders are racing today
100% agree. He was a trailblazer who showed the world that racing can be fun and interesting, and that mental health (mind-set) is key.
@@staniaj1154 Sagan a trailblazer? Really? I guess Claudio Chiappucci was just a pack rider?
@@colnagog6026 sorry, what? I'm not here to start a debate or to split hairs. I'm merely agreeing with the comment that we can thank Sagan "in part" for how riders are racing today... 🙄
For real!
@@colnagog6026 Yeah, I am sure Tadej and Jonas got inspiration from a guy that rode 10 years
before they were even born...
Pogacar vs Vingegaard is one of the greatest battel in sports history
So evenly matched yet so different. We've got a video coming detailing the rivalry.
No its not…to be the real battle both of riders have to be clean…Jonas is doping which is not ok…even Le Mond said that he is 100% convinced that Pogi is clean…he never said that for Jonas…last year 7 minutes in 2 stages…not realistic..Pogacar this year is in top form, Jonas was injured 4 months ago and he beat him by max of 2 minutes in one stage…Jonas is a doper
@ks-li4ic Not the guy winning everything and breaking all the records? How biased are you? 😂
Do you have proof?
Not really, Pogacar is so much better
Pogcar is amazing. I'm also extremely impressed with people like Van Der Poel competing in pretty much any type of bike race that exists.
Pogacar is already one of the greats, looking at his age he could be the greatest of all time. Besides the fact that he is freakishly good, he also has some sort of star quality to it, which makes him appealing in every possible way. Combining all his abilities with the technology available to increase performance, he can be the guy to Change the sport dramatically, as the Next generarion of riders Will want to be " the Next pogacar".
Pogacar is actually so good, that only himself could prevent him from keep on winning. If he refrains his efforts, riding less with his heart and more with his brain, relaying on his teamates a bit more, he Will be unstoppable.
At the same time, we don't him to Change do we?
that's what I was thinking with the Tour de France this year - feels like the contenders are thinking about the beauty of the race first and are enjoying themselves, I'm here for that kind of racing!
The fact he is so young, so humble, so relaxed, and grateful, no ego....
No ego? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great video for someone who isn’t a cycling fan per se, but has an interest and is getting excited by the likes of Pogacar. Awesome stuff, really insightful 👏🏼
Thank you!
Pog is insane what a climber and all rounder. I remember Indurain, Froome multiple tour winners but Pog could win 5 plus TdF’s easy.
Much as I love Big Mig…and I love him a lot, about the only reason he has won so many Tours were the crazy long TTs at that time. He could put 3 minutes into the second best in a TT and then just hang on in the mountains. If we had 2 or 3 TTs today, we’d be talking about how great Remco Evenepoel is.
But yeah, provided he stays healthy Pog will win at least 3 more Tours. Maybe more.
Man ur videos have really stepped up in quality this was a great watch
Thank you
Pogacar with monoxid Training and that kind of Team performance - unbeatable. Even khetone Training can t keep up. His v02max is such 5% higher than the rest of the best. No one is in reach to push him from the throne. Truely a monument of cycling !❤
True that the "Sky train" was incredibly BORING.
That year when Wiggins won the TDF was probably the worst TDF ever.
Happy to see Pogacar and some others ride with a bit of panache these days, even though it's still nothing compared to the races of last century.
Still UAE is dominating this Tour
The whole train Talk in kinda bs in my opinion. Wiggins won because they were 100km TT and Nibali was not stronger in the mountains...
In the end If the Captain does not have it, the best "train" is useless.
idk if I can agree to many of the talking points here, it ultimately comes down to how much stronger the top riders are compared to the rest of the field, or else none of these spontaneous attacking strategies would work at all. And you gotta remember that chaos is how most cycling races go, this "current strategy" never went away except on the very very very top races, all the other races pro and amateur are chaotic as always. The "sky train" was rare even in team sky days, most of all races were chaotic af
amazing editing skills broo 💖💥
Pogacar is unique❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
You too can break one of Pantani's records by scrolling back up and liking this video. Pantani 0, you 1. 💪💪
Disclaimer: we usually stray away from opinion pieces and focus on the story and lore of cycling, however we thought this was fitting with the year that Pogacar is having. Could he be on the path to become the greatest cyclist the sport has ever seen? (Obviously very early days...)
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That’s tasteless but funny af 😂
Hard to say who's next in the long term, but expect Jonas to come srsly hard next year, Remco too. I love me some Tadej, but I'll be surprised if he just destroys at will, like this year. Either way, it is a thing to behold.
Pog is entering his best years in terms of physical development. Nobody will come even close in the next 3-4 years.
From a pure performance perspective, Pogacar is already the greatest of all time. He just needs to keep winning a variety of new races over the next few years to pass Eddy Merckx on paper
Without Vingegaard, Pogacar would have won 5 consecutive Tour De France 🤯
Actually, with current coach he would've done the same even with Vingegaard.
This premise is wack. Everyone knows Vingegaard rode the Jumbo train to victory in 2022 and 23 same as Froome and Armstrong. This year Jonas's team is injured and so is he, but otherwise, they'd have tried to grind down Pog same as ever. Vin seems to be a nice guy but he isn't exactly an exciting cyclist, just a great climber on a great team battling a great opponent who IS exciting
This year we see the UAE train which is very strong with likes of Nils Politt and Adam Yates supporting Pogacar
No everyone does not know that only absolute clueless people think that. He was significantly stronger in the mountains, pogi just has that kick. Pogi before this year was not that impressive in the mountains. People that know about watts, different strentgh in the sport knows Jonas was way stronger in 2022 and 23.
Futher more the 2023 UAE was a stronger mountain train than VISMA was. They had even the top 2 and 3 on the podium proving the point.
@@TellusJD Pog can win the TdF without UAE; Jonas can't without Visma. Also, Jonas was stronger in 2023, we saw it in the ITT. But In 22, Pog got wrecked by the Jumbo train. Rewatch the mountain stages that year bro
@@TellusJDcry
@@jimgray3346 Pogi without team would have lost tdf 2023 at stage 5 without a team.
Chasing Jonas on the flat and downhill, who was solo attacking 40ks out. 2023 was a Jonas beating pogi with no need for his team really.
Doped up to his eyebrows
I really like the the new artstyle of the riders in the thumbnail. They were barely recognisable in the previous ones
Love your content mate. !
If I could advise, maybe get the prompter to the camera level ? Or memorise your lines perhaps ? I think we as viewers would want to maintain eye contact as we watch u speak 😅
Do upload more amazing content! Cheers mate 🙇🏻♂️🙌🏻
Yes! Working on it haha. Thank you
Il est terrible avec ce qu'il a dans les veines !
amazing 340p footage
Jonas is the same as Chris Froome, negative, defensive riding when in the lead. Pogi attacks at all times.
It's not a change. Guys who were around long enough know that it is actually a return to the past
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After watching Evenepoel win both golds in the Olympics, something I never thought was possible, I knew we were in a new era. These guys are complete cyclists.
Jonas didn’t do that himself.. they triple teamed tadej
Did you mean to say, …how Pogi’s doctor changed…
Pogy is the Best
Soooo unpredictable, Pogachar or Vingegaard will take the win
cool plants
There will be no more dominance of Vingegaard/Pogačar. There will be only Pogi.
correct
Let's ignore the obvious doping, lol.
Beating the epo era drivers by minutes is absurd.
You forgot João Almeida!
"imagine a world where everything you knew about grand tour cycling had changed"
so... a clean peloton?
It's as if the race leaders have another gear. Climbing so fast while breathing so easily. Pushing 7w/kg for hours stage after stage with no fatigue.
We're less pre-EPO and more so, post-EPO. Party on Poggie, new and better pharmaceuticals.
You mean Jonas, right? No way he's clean, coming back from punctured lungs and broken ribs to beat everyone except Tadej in less than three months.
Also Bini made history bro! First brotha to do it. Forgot to mention that.
Exciting riders like MvdP or van Aert, who both were like the most boring superstars ever at a grand tour
Wout was good in 2022
Excellent commentary. Constructive criticism: Your set looks like the reception desk of a doctor's office, too many plants. Also, your teleprompter is so far camera right, that your eye movement is distracting. Recommend you get a mirrored, centerline teleprompter or sit farther back from camera.
Haha thank you for both your comments. We will make changes.
Sorry bro but you reading the script is kinda distracting me from the content.
No hate tho, great content, keep it coming.
That’s fair. Working on getting a proper teleprompter
@@TrueSportsLoredon’t worry about it, we’re loving the content with or without a teleprompter 💕
They found his ideal dosage. Whether mechanical or physiological or both. Still amazing to watch though
Motors or epo 2.0… Or both 🤷🏽♂️
“Riders like Pogačar”, so… Pogačar? 😂
By doping
contador didnt have a train, but he always attack and aggresive.
Nononi...you are not right. Biggest change is 'data' , there is no more instinct, they look at their computer and they know evrything...how far they can go how hard ... everything is calculated precisly...riders thrust their computers... instinct is gone ...
How can riders today put out way more power than riders who doped in the past?
Doping in the present
They'll all be doping today. Doesn't take away how impressive the performances of Pog and Jonas are. Its annoying when people suggest it's advances in nutrition and technology being the reason they can achieve such performances
I truly don’t think they are. Besides being much easier to trace, I think they’ve grown into the sport at a time when it’s not only unacceptable professionally, but attitudes have shaped people’s characters to reject doling outright. It’s a massive human failure to seek excellence through doping and no one wants to be associated with it.
@shred3005 what’s it like, still believing in the Easter Bunny, Toothfairy and Santa Claus?
@@shred3005 well have to agree to disagree
History can tell us.. Every champion has a Dirty LITTLE SECRET, isn't Lance, Froome, ect.. 😅
Short crank arms
In my opinion cycling is one of the greatest sports to follow, currently. The only downside is that there are always the same guys winning. I wonder why this is the case?
Yes made it tour de farce
Who gives a fuck about Lance
We'll probably learn in a few years of a new drug that was developed...
Drugged up nothing amazing here!
Pogacar is destroying cycling just like Lance did 20 years ago. Just a look at Pogacar compare to the other riders after the last Time trial in Nice was really puzzling. He was not even sweating at the arrival of the time trial.
Yeah…let’s just forget that was Pog’s home route which he had done 1000s times and knows it like the back of his hand and also that he eased off way before the finish and talk bullcrap…
Come on, its not physically possible so that begs the question that is not being asked, ask the question people lets cut the BS
I`m sick of this doping, and saying its nutrition, o marginal gains, its the bikes, its either motor doping or doping.
Was with you till 2:30. Then you drag out the biggest disgrace in our sport, Armstrong. Why do we continue to give this cheat airtime? See ya !!
imagine if it turns out in 10 years that both these guys and many others, were still doping. lance may be a grade A twerp and a bit of a bully but you might want to hold back on the hate..
@@Drippetto Would be horrendous if they have and I’d be gutted. But Lance did, was caught and was a bully. Sorry, but won’t ever forgive. Because of Lance’s legacy we can’t have success in our sport without the best being accused of doping.
@@robertkelly28 It's not just LA, look at the long list of dopers over the last 30 years. It's all these riders who have crapped on the sport and used it for their own gain and contributed to the suspicion. Yes, LA was a bully but I've finally moved on from that (I actually feel better for it). Look at all the previous known dopers or people linked to dopers who are still involved in the sport. I watch it with open eyes these days and do not believe the top contenders are clean and for me I find it much better. I also don't believe the UCI is interested in a clean sport, they want to be seen to be doing the right thing but want the fast speeds and money. There's also big money coming in from the UAE and the UCI have previously shown themselves to be corruptible when they finally cracked the USA market and therefore money.
@@robertkelly28 Dude, the best have mostly been dopers. What blindfold have you been wearing?
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Well, doping is alive and well [obviously] but naysayers will be...well, naysayers. Whatever.
However, more significant is [IMHO]... we need to get rid of radios. Let the cyclists race! I hate that the team directors are monitoring and scheming from their cockpits. Let's let the race proceed without team radios!!
That Sky dynasty was horrible to watch. It almost killed the tour.
Lens Armstrong is the best anythime❤😂
Sprint stages = boring, don’t even watch them. The less sprint stages the better. It’s sickening that the cyclist with the most stage wins also as many grupetto rides. Oh I almost forgot how they allowed him the win, to take that underserved title, was the icing on the cake.
Mountain stages also require work - the Polka Dot Jersey has been almost defunct in the last couple of seasons with GC’s overpowering the Jersey
This years TDF was a prime example with hardly anything happening until a random late stage run by Carapaz
why presenting armstrong - the pro-cheater.
Doping at an earlier age.
Froom and Armstrong are cheaters. Come on.
Screw Tadej and his merry band of well orchestrated super-domestiques. Remco god damn Evenepoel.
hater pov😂😂
Funnily enough Pog and Remco seem to get along real well with one another, reason why Pog refused to help Jonas put any more time into Remco on stage 20.
Tadej coming exausted from s giro,otherwise jonas would be at 30 min.
He doesnt look exhausted at all. For a guy with his level, the giro might have been the prepararion he needed to smoke this tdf
Jonas coming off a punctured lung. Otherwise Pogi would be at 30 min.
@@steggyq8774 grow a pair dude
@@stonedage5087 grow a pair dude
Jonas weighs 58 kilo. Armstrong weighed 75. Explains almost all. 17 kilo less uphill with more watts. Except how the ugly pedalling style of Pogi with 66 kilo beats all.
Has it been confirmed if Pog' s weight is 66kg? Last year his weight was 66kg, but this year he looks leaner. It would be interesting to know his actual weight this year vs last year.
Next year Pogi will be put to his place. Vingegaard is the best rider, and Pogi knows it
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 one trick pony cant be the best
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The circus is in town and the clowns are here, why is the press not asking what the frick dope are you guys on.
Its the same old Lance Armstrong bullshit when is it going to stop. Come on man.